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The “Alt AI” we interact with during 2077 isn’t the real Alt Cunningham. Rather, it is a Rogue AI feeding off of a portion of the originals engram. The real Alt and possibly Silverhand are still alive during 2045, and possibly by the time of 2077.
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Right shes a program maybe bits and pieces are scattered idk if its when she crossed over to the net or if it happened over time or that the dark net used alt just to be approachable….im wondering if johnnys engram is a memory of alt idk maybe shes compromised maybe johnny and alts bodys are both out there i believe that and probably being totured for well for making soulkillers…i cant wait choom we got a city to burn on this live stream!
Excellent video and points! I definitely can believe the info on both real and fake Alt, man that puts alot of things in perspective. Keep up the good work!
Looking for the live stream now
remember what we see is a cut up version of the books and lore to make keua character look like some hero it's clearly not alt thats. bk up by in game dailog alls we konw phantom liberty is something about the nusa president
Fake af
You pulled the rogue ai out of nowhere about 1/3rd of the way in. The ai is implied to be the original soulkiller alt developed that was then applied to her. There's no reason to assume some other ai came along and consumed her data and started posing as her. That would require a series of coincidences never mentioned in the sourcebooks or video game.
Thought so too. Though i am not really sure about the chain of custody for Johnny's engram. Someone asked me 'what if the part where Johnny gets shot by Smasher and Soulkilled before Saburo is when he's recaptured after Angel reimbodies him, just altered by Arasaka to seem like it was back in 2023?'.
While i find it very unlikely myself, the only valid source according to the sourcebooks for an engram of him would be Spider Murphy. Hell, the wily b-word has Kei Arasaka on a drive somewhere, so it's not that far-fetched anymore.
I just got to this point in the game last night, nice timing
Would you consider adding subtitles to your videos? Sometimes your pronunciation is very layed back (😂) and hard to understand.
It seems really possible that she's alive and out there and if Johnny did get brought back and killed or cot again would be a shame but would be great to really know what really happened
Lmfaoo this channel is reaching happy ends never exist in Night City
Interesting.
As a Mass Effect fan this helped me tremendously to articulate a concept. Since the situation is a decent parallel to the difference between Legion and the Geth Construct depending on our choices to which we find inside the Dreadnought.
The interesting point of the theory, the fragments, coincides with what we as V witness with Del. Killing Del results in the other personalities navigating into the material world. Alternatively, merging his fraction creates something new, ominous. That Del always rubs me as a new super ai, ready to both return to the old net, and to reach further beyond the new net. And we can always wonder if V-Alt depending on if V is an established runner, exists beyond the black wall in much the same relation to Rache or Alt.
Either way, great theory and video, man!
u should do a video on what exactly happens to Morgan BlackHand if he died or somehow got away after fighting smasher on the Arasaka towers
I'm glad you're using the sourcebook and not only Johnny Silverhand's retelling from the game ^^
I enjoy watch videos like this because all do is run around the map killing and collecting, stuff like this never enters my mind.
You use terms "real Alt" and "consciousness" wrong. Soulkiller does not copy/transfer/recreate consciousness. It is stated multiple times. Real Alt died in Arasaka tower, as the AI stated. Even her engram, copied into cloned body, will never be real Alt, because real Alt is dead.
Gun goes hard asf bro
This is why the Devil ending is the best. All knowing AI that also has the head of arasaka's engram. Nah that's too messed up.
Maybe Silverhands engram is just a copy, a trap for arasaka made by alt, carrier for something nasty for their future plans? Who knows?
Loving these vids!
Honestly I don’t know what to think. The A.I, or Alt, could have lied to Johnny because, it’s Johnny. She has misgivings towards him. Plus, when Johnny apologises to her in the Rogue Ending, she has a sort of human reaction. If it is Alt, she lied. She mentioned her imprisonment in Arasaka Tower. Somehow even if she wanted to take upon Alt’s appearance, I doubt an A.I with access to infinite amounts of data would choose Alt’s image. It would say “I’m not Alt but I’ll help you as long as you serve my purpose”. She denies who she was because she’s been a cybernetic ghost for half a century. She talks like a supposed robot because of the computerised data that she has collected. Also I don’t think an AI with no connection to Johnny wouldn’t jump at a chance of consuming both V and Johnny, considering how they are famed for being unfettered. The AIs are known for their obsession with knowledge and control, the Peralez side job explains that well. Alt is no more because she is a different being. And one last thing to consider that makes this theory sort of logical is what Alt said – “I was a net runner”. Netrunner’s are corporeal before they start prowling the net. An A.I is a different being in itself.
No, it's her. Even the in-game database said being behind the blackwall 50 years severely altered her consciousness and the "last weak link to her past" was JS. the VB's would never been able to summon her otherwise. She even said in the ending "I was a netrunner. I understood how to survive. I cannot speak for you. Beyond the Blackwell dangers lurk, it is no sanctuary." The jury is still out but it's clear a soulkilled AI is a perfect copy of that person but isn't that person's original, continued consciousness.
Err, no she’s not.
I'm not sure if I'm the only person who remembers it, but Cybergeneration covered that Alt had a living clone, as did Johnny.
I think they’re leaving certain things open for future games. I doubt this will be resolved in 2077.
Its bit of a stretch. This is a story about sacrifice and of dead people trying to save the living. V was never supposed to survive, the temperance ending is the most appropriate ending as its the right thing to do for the story to have any meaning, its a cautionary tale related to technological overreach that has destroyed humanity rather than improve their lives. Alt Cunningham explains that the Blackwall is not a sanctuary but just a promise of survival, she chose to leave some imitation of her and suggests V to do the same.
I found her grave in the memorial area in the hills
Excellent video, thank you 👍👍👍
Your videos are thorough and easy to listen to. Something I wanted to mention on one video regarding Johnnie's memories being altered, there's actually not just credence for this but even evidence in the game itself source book or not.
Something so small I didn't see it until just recently and I have played the game atleast a dozen times now.
In the very first johnny mission we are seeing the last time Johnny attacked arasaka. In that flashback on the way there Rogue is talking to Thompson on comms! His name even appears on subtitles. But given the next flashback, if you ask Johnny "whatever happened to Thompson" he claims he has no idea and never saw him again.
Yo I gotta get this off my chest when you mentioned Voodoo Boys. Bro…talk about the worst gang ever. They show in that one part of the story and this it. You’d think they’d swore revenge on you for killing their leader and a big member of their pack but but no. They sorta just disappear. Hopefully the DLC dives into them more.
Very interesting.
Following the lines where Silverhand hid away Alt's body
What if Johnny's altered memories are so if they captured him, they would never know where her body was stored?
Bro they replied to me and said that secret is not ready to be reveled yet I shit you not!
The potential for future games, movies, tv shows and animes (all set in this universe) is infinity. I feel like we are barely scraping the surface of it all.
Absolutely dope content, well done. Obviously spent a lot of time researching the source material and happy to get your unique perspective which adds depth to how I look at the game, Thank You!
The chapter in Red when Alt is severed from her Cyberdeck is titled “Angel Heaven”..
The A.I problem gonna play a major role in the cyberpunk universe from now on for sure. But i still think that, there is gonna happen another Corpo War and they will totally miss the point because of it and the A.I will strike when nobody else is expecting.
Johnny lies about his real life, and chances are V is just losing his shit and is a cyber psycho with ptsd, Jonny dies in arasaka tower and black hand makes it out of arasaka I don’t see how V is still alive in the new dlc coming out
Game is very good on ps5