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This fixer is considered a Cyberpunk 2077 favourite by many… but what if I told you Padre was the next Dexter DeShawn to the next chump of a solo who comes along?
I never would’ve thought this, but after I sat down and replayed the game, some things started to click in my head. I started to notice some detail that I never noticed before, and my brain went WAHHHHHHTTT?!?!?!?
My initial thesis with the Padre was more of a positive one, but yeah, it took a complete turn. And it was SO MUCH FUN!
I hope you all enjoy this take on Cyberpunk’s most “godly” fixer, Sebastian “Padre” Ibarra. Let me know what you think in the comments! I’m super curious, especially anyone who has any theological perspective to offer on him, as my knowledge in that regard is very limited.
And yes. I called Padre the Daddy. Did I start working on this video with the intention to thirst over young Padre? No. But did I end up doing that? Yeah. LOLOLOL.
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after i heard Gustavo out, i always spare him let him skip town but considering how he committed self-exit it makes me wish that decisions actually mattered more in Cyberpunk
I have to admit I cracked up at 8.55 at the "you could have become anything else"+slow zoom into Mr. Stud advertisement 😂
29 million believing in Santa Muerte. It's almost like maybe the Catholic Church should have done more for its people instead of leaving them to rot or something.
You make a very compelling argument.
Padre was always daddy.
The Padre
Thanks 4 all the hard work.
I love these videos, I’m so glad I happened to stumble on to them.
Are you going to showcase Claire on pride month?
Speaking of “small town in Canada” 🤚🏻 and I’d love to start up a ttrpg of Cyberpunk. Brampton, anyone? lol
I love these videos, I’m so glad I happened to stumble on to them.
Are you going to showcase Claire on pride month?
Speaking of “small town in Canada” 🤚🏻 and I’d love to start up a ttrpg of Cyberpunk. Brampton, anyone? lol
11:25 Lmao! I never really thought about it, but now I can't stop noticing it… "Six'thhhh… Street" xD
You reap what you sow and when you meet st peter at the pearly gates he's gonna judge you and either you go to hell or you go to heaven
I think the Gustavo quest would make more sense if he took the Friar Lawrence role and we had to help him fake his death. When I played that quest the first time I thought oh R&J and padre is showing shakespeare’s little shit at the Catholic Church. He also has a lot in common with Friar Lawrence’s with helpful vs harmful, the duality of nature –
and this is shown with Padre’s duality with religion/loyalty, and $$
BUT MARMALADE IS NICE THOUGH 🙁
It's no jam or jelly, but still.
In regards to José Luis and Gustavo Orta, I always thought they were being offered up as "sacrifice" to appease another powerful group and prevent retribution or war. That is a recurring event throughout Night City. One Malestrom gangoon slaughtered a sizable group of Tyger Claws, and is freely handed over to them as a form of apology (one of the NCPD's "assault in progress" missions in Northside Watson). With Orto and Luis, they needed to be handled by someone in their own ranks so that their deaths didn't motivate other Valentinos to seek retribution, which would have completely negated their sacrifice.
hes definitely a character who drew me in with his cool voice and cool manner of speaking, but i cant deny that you are probably right about him being on the way out, and clearly not a good person
You know you're fucked when you're considered below Mama Welles as level of threat.
Also, will you do a video on her as well? I'd like to hear what you believe led the Cojote Loco to closing down.
I think you got it wrong with him being so weak. He has so much power through respect, he can freely roam the city with 1 bodyguard, get iron pulled on him while not breaking a sweat as if that happens multiple times. He knows people dont actually want to fuck with him, because they cant morally deal with it. Somehow in a city without any, he made that his strong suit. That is respectable as fuck.
Every other fixer hides somewhere behind some gangoons, fortified tower and even someone like el capitan never really leaves the road as being on the move is his out. Padre doesnt need any of that.
The other ones that ever left their safeplace were Rogue, Kirk, Dex and him. Rogue went with V after they proved to be a goddamn literal one man army and she still practically disguised herself. Kirk died. Dex died. And Padre got that fucker killed that pulled iron on him without even looking him in the eye, because he knew how things will play out.
Sure he doesnt pull major league heists like rogue where someone always gets royally fucked over, but that is part of why he is so powerfull. He does not really have enemies, yet he plays them all.
Please Can we Get some Phantom Liberty Characters Covered after the Fixers? I love you're Content and I'd Love to see you Tackle them and maybe an Updated Kiwi Vid now that New Lore Came out for the Edgerunners Crew too
I think you've missed the big powerplay with Orta, and Padre's real fixation. Killing Gustavo, making it seem like the 6St did it is going to piss off the Valentinos and make them ready for war. Padre is terrified of 6th Street, and sees them as a threat to his kingdom. That's why Sam got done up publicly. It's why he couldn't let the false flag Valentino's do their thing, or the cop killer go unpunished. He needs the Valentinos angry and focused, not distracted by corpo shit, not hounded by the PD.
I didn't think Gustavo self deleted. I got the impression he faked it so he could disappear and come back if Martha recovers (twist on the Romeo and Juliet archetype)
Great watch!
Padre is a thug, always has been, but atleast he's aware that ignorance is bliss, the less you know the more peaceful you'll be, but ironically he can't never have that bliss again, he have done too much and he know it
One thing I found that revealed Padre's weakness – one of the NCPD Scanner gigs involves a policewoman who was working as an informer for Padre. Her cover was blown and the Valentinos came after her – the message log on her body reveals that she was begging Padre for help. He promised it, but when V arrives the policewoman is dead and the Valentinos are just hanging around laughing.
It says a lot when the very gang that Padre is associated with starts to kill his NCPD informers and he can't do anything about it.
I'd argue that Padre is not the weakest, but he's about as corrupt as they get. I think what happened to him is that Campo Orta learned about his involvement in his cousin's death and worse, that Padre took money from a 6th Streeter to do it, and he gave orders from prison to bring him down
Wait, Gustavo really kills himself when you let him go? I always assumed that was just the official cover story to explain his absence in the future, an that he would return for Martha later. I'm probably to good in my heart for Night City…
I hear padre came to an end eating marmalade with the sixth street gang
you're welcome. have a great day :p
I didn't expect to hear the elevator music from Mass Effect in this video.
I wouldn't call Sébastien the weakest Fixer. He had a strong power base, just fragile. He has a nice house of cards, but all it can take is a shift in the wind, and it all tumbles.
Dino is probably the weakest imo. He has the fewest gigs iirc.
I only killed Gustavo in my first playthrough because I sent Jackie to Victor.
Santa muerte is for the weak and low lifes
Phenomenal video, and thought provoking… Can't wait for the Dakota, or the Mr. Blue Eyes episode…
I never really thought about each Fixer in depth until I first found your videos, and you really make alot of compelling points and observations. Love it
Religion is a tool, used by scum to control fools. And Padre is no fool.
All i know is padre is ironic in that out of all the fixers, padre has you kill more than the rest. Padre represents ironically what is wrong with the church. Its ok if you do bad you can be forgiven through faith which is true, but wheb you take advantage of that, there is no contritism in your heart. Padre represents that to a t. Hes not a changed man. Hes allowed evil to consume him. Unfortunately. You can understand and know scripture all day long even satan knows it better than most, but unless you change your heart and choose different than is there really any repentence? The old church and the problem with catholicism it teaches you penance. But how can your penance outweigh or out glorify Jesus death on the cross that paid for all sins?
20:50 Is Gustavo really dead though? I always thought that he skipped town and made it look like he killed himself. Anyway thank you for your hard work you put in these videos.
I like Padre. Not, fear or respect or anything, I just like him. He's a former(ish) Valentino like Jackie so he gets a default benefit of the doubt from me. He plays the God fearing mobster well, I don't personally see contradictions there, and it's one of my favorite types of characters. He came to Jackie's funeral so he gets homie points.
That’s why I use the British pronunciation of sixth. Eliminates any issues with forming consonants that don’t go well together
Just say sikth, that what the Brits do and for once I agree.
I like Padre because his Gigs are honest.
If you read some of the shards his targets have, a couple are along the lines of, "I did a terrible thing, but I went to a confessional, so I should be good now…"
(NOT SO FUN) FACT! Gustavo Orta actually DOES off himself after completing his quest the less-violent route. You can find his body at his desk if you go back into the building, after leaving and completing the quest. I always thought that was just a ploy he threw out there to cover his escape. But apparently not!
Noice. 👍 Would luv to see your interpretation of V (corpo V) specifically. The other life paths are kinda bland. The 2076 V when they first met Jackie. Etc.
Usually, when I come to your character analysis videos, I have a sense of what to expect. My view of the characters usually aligns with yours. This time though, your analysis on Padre made me completely reconsider his character.
Also, that older concept art really is daddy.
The gangs work like prison rules in some respects: doesn't matter how small-time the gonk making the threat is, if someone is allowed to disrespect one on one's own turf so publicly without repurcussion then one is finished.
Important to remember too that as much as it stands out that some Tino's are trash talking Padre in the open it also stands out that some affiliated gangoons are talking about a fixer at all, Dex is remembered for the historic mess he made and everyone knows Rogue is the queen of fixers in NC but Kako's not exactly got her name tagged all over Westbrook, I think there could be extenuating circumstances stemming from the question of how much the average gangoon really knows of fixers less public than Padre. V's fixers aren't running the gangs; Regina isn't running the Mox, Kako isn't running the Claws, Reyes isn't even gang-affiliated; Padre says himself something close to "I don't lead the Tinos, I'm just the wolf the other wolves fear."
Also a salient point with the Gig: On a Tight Leash since you mentioned it is that Padre finds out Jose's crew hit Arasaka for the corp itself from V as a result of the gig so it's not really fair to use that as evidence of Padre playing both sides.
Also I've never seen any evidence in-game that Padre had the Valentinos rob the Aldecaldos, just that the Aldecaldos got robbed because they hadn't hired Padre to make sure that they didn't.
Here's where things get really interesting.
Gig: Bring Me the Head of Gustavo Orta is a pretty clear Romeo and Juliet reference. Two Star-Crossed Lovers from Rival Families, one asleep, the other in hiding, both doomed to die tragically. But what if the reference doesn't stop there? Who tries to get Romeo & Juliet out of Verona in the play by faking Juliet's death and putting her into a deep sleep? The priest.
When you asked why Padre even wound up with the gig to hand to V instead of it being a squad of 6th Street bursting in you hit the nail on the head and you didn't even realise it.
Padre wanted V to get Gustavo out. Not only must Padre feel the same about Gustavo as he did about Jackie with the two young Tinos having come up together, but by getting Gustavo out he can secure the respect of the Tino's prodigal son and the new generation that look up to Gustavo. But how does one keep 6th Street from chasing Gustavo down to get their revenge anyway? By convincing them he's going to do it himself. Padre's got a reputation for eliminating Tino's that disrupt the status quo that makes the lie sellable but he still needs a paper trail and deniability to stop 6th Street from cottoning on and chasing Gustavo down, enter V and Padre's gamble that V might struggle to end Jackie's old friend without looking him in the eye or just read between the lines.
Remember that Gustavo doesn't Kermit Sue himself after V talks to him, that's just the cover story to his disappearing from Night City as Gustavo and V agree he must, and frankly that Padre has heard said cover story by the time V hits the ground floor seems like a bit of a tell that Padre didn't need telling that cover story after the fact.
Padre doesn't ask V to spare him the details for the sake of his own stomach, he asks V to spare him the details because he needs to maintain deniability now that exactly what he wanted has come to pass.
And while one can use the PL ending to make assessments of the forces that may well have already been in motion in 2077 that ending is meant to be one of the worse endings: V gets their teeth knocked in walking around their own neighbourhood, Vic sold out to Zetatech, Yorinobu's plan to destroy Arasaka from the inside failed, and if I'm not mistaken Misty has become a merc so I don't think one should assume too much that it's the way things would still go if V hit Mikoshi.
Granted I haven't sat down and researched this comment but I do have 1400 hours in the game so I've picked some things up
You’re assuming Catholicism doesn’t change until 2077?!
Those saints may be mainstream by then 🤷🏻♂️