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We compare the HDR vs SDR presentation of Cyberpunk 2077 on the Playstation platform, using two Sony XH90 (also marketed as the BRAVIA X900H in the USA) 4K LED LCD TVs, two Sony PS5 consoles, as well as two copies of Cyberpunk 2077 PS4 version.
Our HDR vs SDR comparison was done after installing hotfix/ patch 1.05 on two PS5s.
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Please make the video on cyberpunk 2077 next gen update hdr test
The Series X HDR on 1.5 patch still doesn't look right. It still looks washed out. Colors are dull. Blacks aren't deep enough and certain surfaces look blown out.
Playing the game on PS5 updated… and this is an issue I have come across and brought me here. No amount of fiddling can get this to look right in HDR still in 2022 with the next gen update
Is this still the case after 1.5?
Hey Vincent. Can you please check patch 1.5 now as they did say they balanced HDR and I am seeing a difference now. It's no longer as washed out and the HDR pops I'm actually seeing.
I would love your thorough input on patch 1.5 HDR and whether its better to use HDR now.
Let's get an update on this for patch 1.5 on the PC.
Are you planning on doing a follow-up video since the latest patch just released?
Please do a patch 1.5 update on HDR on ps5. Let’s see if it’s fixed
Is the HDR still broken with 1.5?
Hy Sir Vincent, in line with yours test, i have set my q90t/ps5 at 18-18-0 and now is very beautiful. thanks
But I have a question.
The q90t nits are 1500..
If is fixed, i do to set the game hdr settings at: 1500nit and 1.5 medium tones ?
Do you have any idea? Thanks for your passion.. !
Hi Vincent! Can you do another video with same X90H with patch 1.5? It seems they fixed HDR now. I am not entirely sure what to set tone mapping to. I am going with 1.3 at the moment. Should it be 1?
I just got the game after the new update and i play on a LG C1. Im really struggling to get a solid black look on the hdr settings. Any tips or tricks im missing? Im using game optimizer profile.
Every game looks like when I turn hdr it just washes the colour out and makes the game look bad in my opinion
Hey @HDTVTest can you do an update to this video now that the Cyberpunk update has finally come to PS5, I must admit the HDR works now and I can finally play the game without it crashing, I would just like your professional opinion on the HDR and what video settings could be best 😊
its a shame so many games look bad in HDR, i am wondering if it has something to do with the console/pc dynamic colour range setting as i have yet to see a movie that looks worse in HDR
HDR on while playing COD looks like poo
When seeing my nits what percentage do I use? Also sdr or hdr? Trying to calibrate cyberpunk with hdr.
If it looks like this on a full array led lcd. I wonder how terrible it would look on a regular hdr monitor with no local dimming.
CDPR have not fixed the HDR issue. I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 in SDR on my 4K Samsung tv and it looks great.
I'd love to see you do a video on the latest official next-gen version of cyberpunk.
SDR stands for Standard dynamic range it says standard for a reason and if you wanted variable results you can use High Dynamic Range. In my humble opinion HDR is a scam and it varies heavily from tv to tv which tell you that the industry has no standards over hdr and it can be both pleasant and unpleasant experience that literally has no standards. Especially if you have an lcd display that supports VRR what ends up happening is features such as Local dimming get disabled which will further ruin the already bad hdr implementations. So for gamers stick to SDR in combination with VRR and you’re golden and don’t bother with a gimmick that hdr is.
Has this been fixed? Is HDR always better especially on Oleds watching in a living room with normal to bright light (no direct light)
I just crank the contrast/brightness on my monitor to insane levels if the movie/game has some crazy filters washing the colors…
Is a cheap solution that offers similar HDR experience on my cheap SDR monitor 😂
Some movies go crazy with their filters to promote the need of HDR but in reality you need to watch a 4K video in Youtube to realize is the movie itself and not the video format.
They just introduce a problem to sell you a solution, is crazy marketing 😎
Does the PS5 offer HDR scRGB in addition to HDR PQ? Because, while this is my experience with HDR PQ on PC, this isn't my experience on the PC using HDR scRGB. My screen only does 12-bit, but it looks better (to my eye) than SDR with that setting.
Hoping to hear back from Vincent.
Does a ps5 has to be in HDR in for it to look really good and because ps5 disc are ultra hd disc it has to be in hdr because if I play spider man remastered I have hdr in the game then I close the game and turn off the hdr from the ps5 settings but when I go start the game when I show the game menu the picture is all messed up!?!
I just got a 3090 and I've been obsessing back and forth a billion times over every little setting (ultimately realizing my worst feat is being choked by my processor), and could not for the life of me make up my mind on HDR… because on Windows 10 you HAVE to set Windows to HDR, otherwise Cyberpunk WON'T be able to "pretend" HDR properly. Then a trillion tinkering's with monitor settings… I still couldn't make up my mind.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPARISON xD
I’ve given up on HDR – have seen it actually look good like twice
@HDtvTest any fix yet?
Hdr has always been a scam
I've just gotten my HDR ultrawide and realized that HDR implementation is weird in CB2077 I'm on PC btw, they've implemented some type of fake HDR because in true HDR games when I bring up the nVidia GeForce Experience overlay the green is vibrant AF, but that is not the case in CB2077 so it shows the HDR implementation is fake.
HDR 모드 최적화도 ㅄ임
Been washed out on my TV. Just left it off in the end.
With patch 1.6 the HDR is still washed out with max brightness less than 500 nits. SDR is still superior. I tested it on Xbox-series-x and Samsung Odyssey Neo G7. Everything Vincent said still applies. Nothing was fixed.
I really appreciate you're analysis and explanations. I literally thought my TV was messed up because of the horrible HDR from this game. I'm in complete agreement that the game is not sending a true HDR signal. It's just scaling up the peak brightness when in HDR mode and calling it HDR.
I thought SDR looked better(nothing changed)…On PC in 1.6, there are no HDR setting options it seems? Windows auto hdr looks alright but i think i prefer SDR for this game.
HDR Gaming is scam in every Game. Use an HDR Monitor/TV turn HDR of and use the full 4:4:4 srgb colour Channel. Great Colours.
Gee, they really don't know how to implement this.
Thank you for your hard work
Right now I have LG 27UL850 HDR400 and I decided to try out Asus ROGPG27QM due to so many positive reviews and oh boy I was disappointed. Colores where so washed out and the brightness was so high that my eyes start to hurt after playing CP 2077 only for 15 min. 27UL850 produces so much more colors and doesn't hurt eyes.
Can you do another video with the new version 1.61? It seems HDR now work quiet great!
It looks to me like the two images in different modes could be made to look very similar (let's say a middle ground) by adjusting the picture contrast of each, which every monitor can do. I'm not sure if the color intensity can be adjusted separately or not but the contrast adjustment will probably apply to the color as well as the brightness/darkness levels. Put another way: the HDR image just looks like a clumsy approach to create more shadow and highlight detail by lowering the overall contrast. It doesn't work so well.
I honestly think HDR is oled's biggest Achilles heel. It looks worse than SDR almost 100% of the time. SDR is reliable, balanced and consistent, it almost always looks great. HDR is extremely hit or miss and most of the time I find myself scratching my head and thinking how can people actually like this? Bright scenes are overly bright and often times over processed and unnatural looking. Dark scenes oftentimes are way too dark losing details and crushing blacks. In many cases whole movies look this way, terrible and muted. It's not a calibration issue, its a mastering and panel limitations issues. I don't even bother with HDR on my a80k, I have disabled it on my firestick. Everything is 4k SDR and i'd challenge anyone to show me one single piece of content on Prime or Netflix that looks better in HDR than it does in SDR all the way through on OLED.
Windows HDR Calibration tool.
HDR > SDR in CP2077. HDR > all games in SDR.
You just need to be in the PC Master Race, have an IQ over room temperature and know what software to use to calibrate your HDR monitor.
I'm not surprised NO ONE understands this.
Seems like the TestStation5 issue. The game was released from Sony Open Beta, can you redo this comparison with real gamers setup? (PC, TS5 is relevant to the very small auditory of Sony free workforce)
I think my TV always has a max hdr peak brightness of around 600 that's what I could find but in every game it always looks better at 900 to 1000, cyberpunk on my TV looks better in HDR I was wondering why then I decided to check the picture settings on my TV it says dolby vision, so I swapped it for HDR on the xbox and it looks horrible compared to dolby visions and ai tried the same with every game that's has HDR or dolby vision and dolby vision always looks far better than HDR, on my ps4 without dolby vision HDR looks amazing, but on my series X hdr looks horrible but dolby vision looks really good, also on the xbox when I go to TV picture settings it says dolby vision and dolby vision game mode, dolby vision bright and dolby vision dark, I usually play on dolby vision dark or bright depending on the game, I noticed the main picture settings that changes is colour saturation, on game mode it stays at 70 while on bright it goes to 100 and on dark it stays at 70 but a few other settings like gamma is on 2 instead of 0, but these settings seem a bit odd because could I just play in SDR and just change the TV picture settings to match these?