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Cyberpunk 2077 News Updates – So why are all the children in Cyberpunk 2077 and Assassin’s Creed Valhalla a little…uhm…creepy? A developer lends some answers as to why developers struggle to create realistic kid models in open world games. And the reason actually makes sense! Plus Melissa Rory has been discovered in Night City. Yep, she’s the original model from the 2013 trailer. Also what’s happening with that third person mod? An update!
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SOURCES:
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/01/02/creepy-valhalla-cyberpunk-2077-npcs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/knrc8o/image_cyberpunk_2077_child_models_are_just_the/
https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-gets-a-third-person-pc-mod
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kq2pew/holy_crap_its_really_her_the_girl_from_the_first/
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Melissa_Rory
How to Find Melissa Rory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hpSeAFowI
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this is bull shit I made a perfectly good looking kid with blender its not that hard they just being lazy
Honestly, in CP2077 it's just those two kids that look weird. The rest looks fine.
someone needs killable children mod like in Fallout
2012 people. That was when Cyberpunk was announced. I was 19, now I’m 28. I blame the Witcher 3 like why y’all announcing Cyberpunk and then not gonna start development until after 2015? We have enough medieval games lol chill with the Witcher stuff for a bit. Too late now though.
Lol i always thought they where little people not kids.
Fairly certain I ran into her during a side mission at a clothing store. Had a short conversation about her mantis blades and how they were not standard issue/possibly dangerous. She seemed unconcerned. If you have tech 20 you can talk to her specifically about how her blades are different.
I honestly don't think this game was made in 8 years, or even 5 years. Remember Johnny is a big part of the game. Keanu didn't come into conversations with CDPR until 2018. That's about 2 years of development. So my question is, what happened? Did they scrap a previous plan and focus on Johnny?
Children in Fallout 4 are fine! Children in Breath of the Wild are fine! CDPR said they would have 'amazing real-time AI systems allowing for an incredibly dynamic bustling city, setting a new standard in terms of visuals, complexity and depth', yet they couldn't be arsed to model a single child! What a truly disappointing last gen game it turned out to be…
I don’t know why but I feel like Very Hard in this game isn’t Hard at all
Summary: kids look bad cause it cost CD Project Red and devs less $/time
Um, what was the "legendary discovery"?
Does anyone know if your sleeves always being rolled up is a bug or intended feature? Cause I really getting bothered by not being able have my sleeves rolled down xD
"Execs" are not just a problem in the gaming industry. This is a general problem for large project development. "Execs" are almost always the reason development projects fail, especially those execs without ground level development experience themselves. Their expectations are often uninformed and unrealistic. They will browbeat dev teams to commit to unknowable deadlines, and even after that make major design changes without much regard to the consequences. I think consumers should separate in their minds the difference between "devs" and the executives that often force failure to occur.
One of my worst examples: I once had a new Director of IT boss that decided to change the programming language of a successful almost complete project currently in beta testing (already with excited end user testers) that had been in development for a couple years, only because he himself was not familiar with that programming language when he was hired. We told him reprogramming the whole thing in "his" technology (Visual Basic LOL) would take 6 – 8 months, and he insisted it would only take 3 weeks. After 8 months with him periodically chastising us for taking over 3 weeks, I left that company for a more lucrative and supportive job. The rework was 95% complete and mostly only needed some UI touch up. He then hired contract VB programmers to finish up that didn't understand the complexity of the app/business (multi line insurance instant quoting in the field for agents) and it never got completed and the excited users got chumped. This guy eventually screwed up various mainframe systems bad because he also had unrealistic expectations about that work, and was eventually laid off after wasting several million dollars in time and failed projects (and prompted me and others to find a better employer). He had a genius level IQ and graduated top in his class at MIT with the full backing of the board and could argue up a storm, but thought he knew things he didn't. He got hired by selling the board of directors that no project should take longer than three weeks, which they ate up of course (back then those guys were severe tech luddites and didn't like how slow and expensive custom development is – probably hasn't changed much). Of course he couldn't deliver that, caused several projects to fail badly and cost the company millions, getting laid off after several years of damage. He probably went on to use that experience to get another IT Director job somewhere else, hopefully after learning something.
Execs can think their "lets try this" idea is worth negating hundreds of people's full time work of months or even years, because they can, and or because they want to "make their mark". There is a time for design and mock up testing, then there is a time to commit for rubber to hit the road and execs often have no clue when they should stop changing things just because they have the power to do so. Very few "execs" are actually experts in the field they reside over and exponentially underestimate amounts of work required. I've seen projects where committees of leaders "design" an application over two whole years of weekly meetings, only to declare that the project is now "done" even though not one line of code had started. They had already taken up 80% of the allotted project timeline, deciding stupid things like what dropdown list boxes should look like (it was predetermined by their technology decision). The actual "doing it" part is not even considered to be significant in their minds. They don't understand the depth of their own cluelessness. Only an "exec" could spend two years of meetings designing an application, then expect it to be developed in just a month or two. This same programming tech was sold to the board as "no programming required", and it required a team of 10 programmers over a year to develop what they designed, and the same over 2 more years to finish the other two major application requirement areas that the two years of design meetings didn't even cover.
Indie game dev here. Nothing hard about making children or any characters of different proportions. I don't know what they're talking about. Sounds lazy to me.
Edit: So it is laziness. Jesus.
Bro these kids need milk
The first time I saw a kid in cyberpunk, I was like WTF is wrong with this tiny grown ass adult?!
If you ever go into those 2 kids’ room after completing River Wards quest line, you’ll shit bricks
Children Of The Corn: The Game.
CONFIRMED!!!!
Damn imagine if Jackie was the alt personality and not Johnny silver hand…would have made such a more intense story arc
If you look at the way your shadow moves it explains why they removed 3rd person
10 years was not enough? Cyberpunk is a failed experiment. Can we have the Witcher 4 now
so basically they are lazy to model a new character
So CD project red lost their repo, huh, well at least we’ll have rockstar games to rely on. Oh shit, did I just jinxed it?
They remind me of the kid version of George Lopez from the show
Damn that one in the middle looks a bit like Chuckie from the Childs Play movies
They probably spent the whole budget on Keanu so no budget for NPCs, hopefully with all our preorder money they can fix that!
GAME is trash!!! Stop milking the game there is nothing to enjoy in the game story is trash too
Yeah cdpr even rushed kid character models it’s disgusting 🤮
One of the best mods I've seen, makes the minimal larger when you enter a vehicle. The original one just sucks balls.
Bioware used entire movements in cutscenes from first Mass Effect. Ex: At the end of ME Sheppard walks up the platform after defeating Saren having a Jesus moments. And when The inquisitor discovers his New Castle.
The child model response is exactly why Cyberpunk is in the state it is in right now. 8 years and how much money and in all that time they couldn't find one person that could properly build a 'reusable' 8 year old child model? How many countless years were spent modeling every single detail of Night City down the tiniest aspect yet NPC models, one of the single most noticeable get short cuts and half-azz'd. Had to do all new animations? Like what? Run, cower, and walk? It's not like the children in the game need any of the player or adult animations beyond that. Yet the children still shuffle along like hunched over 90 year old men with dead eye expressions. I feel for the developers and the lack of reality they had to deal with when it comes to their management team. But to say something didn't come our looking right because "its herd" it a massive cop-out. Cyberpunk 2077 in its current form is an absolutely amazing world modeling tech project. The half of a game that got shipped with it however is a pile of trash.
I tried to shoot them they said I can do what I want and you can't do nothing lmao
Pretty sure they could afford a separate child rig. The kids in The switched aren’t this awkward.
I understand the need to scale the adult rig, as an artist and animator, I believe the real issue is in the artwork for the head and face. I think that small change would be effective enough.
Not sure if its a glitch thats happening to everyone but if you visit river after all of his side quests, the children well be standing inside of their rooms glitching through the bad facing away from the door. Its kind of horrifying
Its a stutter fest on my 1050ti i cant even play in the lowest settings and resolution lol…but red dead 2 run at medium at 30-40 fps…its cyberpunk not optimized at all or what?
MSI Laptop PE62 7RE
1050ti 4gb
8gb ram
I7-7700HQ 2.8Ghz (up to 3.4)
At least they're being forthcoming about it.
They should keep that going..
they are dragon kids 3000 years old
its legal fyi