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Despite mostly sporting a plethora of morally grey choices. Here are some decisions in Phantom Liberty that can turn out pretty bad!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:40 Failing The Entire DLC
04:27 Getting Caught on Camera
07:39 Killing Angie
11:45 Not Saving Paco
16:05 Not Mingling at the Party
19:19 Conclusion
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised, if the notes of the president left were just there to gaslight us into thinking that she'll keep her promises, since she's later shown to be a pretty cold hearted and evil person, if you follow Songbird's storyline. Hell, she has no issues sacrificing even the people most loyal to her like Reed, let alone some thugs she randomly met.
The side quest content in Phantom Liberty is quite frankly staggeringly good. So many complex and meaningful choices! Imagine if Starfield had even one choice as good as the worst Phantom Liberty side quest! 😂
Ahh the camera, thankfully my playstyle was stealth and silenced pistols so I was able to spot the camera ahead of time and take it out without it recording me. Thank god for that.
Letting Hassan go, instead of speaking to Mr Hands kinda sucked on my first playthrough, especially since I found him afterwards, but couldn't do anything with him
What the hell, Myers shot Jacob and Taylor in my playthrough, i didn't even know they were named characters.
I do not like songbird, in a good way. She’s a lying sack of shit. She’s only mad you let the president die because there’s more of a chance it’ll trace back to her or she’ll just end up getting killed by Hansen. All her fault, has no reason to be pissed at V
10:58 what is with the third answer option?
I ice scavs on sight. So I guess it's best paco died if he was gonna choose to be one of those.
Jacob and Taylor die shortly after the mission, right outside the apartment
Myers killed Jacob and Tyler when I was talking to them. I was like wtf is she doing…
Because Africa is probably the best place to live in Cyberpunk at that point in time I feel like Babs and Paco have it set, you see that sign advertising tourism in Somalia everywhere for example.
I threatened angie and she immediately attacked me so there's gotta be another requirement for threat to work
The decisions you make during the braindance job at the brainporium make a huge difference to how it all plays out. If you do it right not only the characters you interact with all turn out well (a rare circumstance in NC) but they do so well that they eventually meet with Rachel from Sinnerman. They use you as a reference and Rachel messages you to confirm you know them and says that they're going to make tons of eddies working together.
the sport academy was a real dillema tho
I get Carmen gun, but i completly missed on Paco quest somehow lol
It's my first playthrough and just I as finished killing Brigitte and her Voodoo boys I got a call from Songbird. It all was sudden and wierd. I was asked to save the president then join fbi or whatever. I was just a streed kid not long time ago and with the time bomb in my head I couldn't care less about the president and the states. I felt like it would ruin my first playthrough experience so I refused to work for them. Maybe, it's different for the people who completed the main story and want new content.
So i've got both the bad Paco endings LOL.
I was able to keep them alive by not getting detected by the cameras. I went right and just hacked the cameras and turned them off.
I Fd up the boxer by killing Angie. and.. I DIDNT GET A COOL HELMET AAARRRGHHH
also, could've added the reporter chick that ended up.. spoilers
that ended up selling the info to netwatch, selling your life essentially and making V run from netwatch for the rest of his life potentialy
There’s also I worse ending for the Carmen quest and you just wipe the whole base out and pick it up off Pacos dead body. Not saying I did this 👀
Just discovered another possible way to fail the mission for PL – if you get caught by the cameras, and then fight the goons with Reed and go to the apartment, let REED fight the goons and run away. The mission will fail. 2 days later you will get a message from Songbird that acknowledges Reed and Meyers both died and she doesn't even really fully blame you. She takes blame herself. Interesting ending. CDPR is the best
Well I’m probably worst than those :
The 2 guys got killed by Myers in my play through, and I killed the 2 friends when they aggroed me, so both died (still got the gun tho)
Does the threaten option only happen if you defeat Sasquatch? I ended up sneaking past her in my current run. Is there no way to take her down outside walk the line?
My worst choice was not killing songbird because i wanted new ending
Trusting Songbird is my personal worst decision, she is lieing trouble maker that thinks only about her self to the point of harming inecent people , her quest line is worst then Reeds and less rewarding….
I did all of these except the instant fail
Dlc was fun but better than main story? Nah
With angie, I threatened her, let her go, and then changed my mind and killed her anyway. Hilarious to know that that was the worst option.
The threten button dosn't show up for me, why is that.
As much as I loved playing the game, cyberware and the attribute tree is an absolute clusterfuck of a mess. I would have no qualms if they would allow you the ability to restructure these things freely at your discretion any time. Sometimes i want to street brawl, sometimes i want to sneak, sometimes i want to net run. It would be nice to maximize my character for each skill depending on the JOB instead of the whole damn game.
With No Easy Way Out, if you take too long to do his quest he'll actually be found dead outside of some diner
Failing the entire DLC is the best decision can be made plot-wise. That bitch of a president dies, So Mi stays with Hansen which is actually is a good guy (or at least he is not as bad as other corpo leaders, he even lets us escape from Black Sapphire). Hansen himself also stays alive, as long as lovely french bae Aurora Cassel. I also hate Reed and Alex for murdering Cassel twins, so the case they're living thieir boring lives is an okay scenario for me. Shame that the game is actually not that ready for this turning of events.
I still think that the worst decision you can make in Phantom Liberty is to side with Mayers and Reed. I agree that Song Mi needs to be stopped. She fucked up everything out of pure selfishness. But if you side with Reed you loose EVERYTHING! except your worthless life.
You betray Johnny (and the last dialog in the NUSA medical ship will fucking break you in half if you are friends with him), and then you outright kill him by accepting the NUSA medical surgery. Song Mi becomes a fucking weapon for Mayers (fuck this bitch). Reed looses all hope and dies slowly at a desk job. You loose our status as the only living legend of the Afterlife. Your life as an edgerunner (betraying your promise to Jackie). All your chrome, becoming allergic to implants (you get beaten by a bunch of lowlives after you visit your last friend Vik that is now a corpo lackey). And most importantly you loose all your friends! Everyone moves on. Everyone thinks you betrayed them or left them behind, consequently some of them fucking up their own lives out of grief. This has to be the worst ending in all the games I ever played. It's the most realistic "good" ending. Everyone survives (except Johnny.. but he died a long time ago, really). But was it worth it? You are finally free. But you are also a living ghost. Fucking Phantom Liberty.
The eco terrorist quest ended weirdly for me, with the girl dead and them trying to jump me in a back alley rigged with explosives. I’m wondering if there’s a better ending for that one.
Thing is with J&T, after making the mistake that got them killed by Barghest the first time, I just killed them myself the 2nd playthrough, seems easier for them to just die rather than having a good thing going and THEN dying
One think I’d recommend doing is doing all of Kerry’s story missions up until after the Us Cracks concert. It makes Lina proper flirty but also ends up doing really fucking fell
Fuck me… I made almost all of them just because I wanted to do "the right thing"
Start of DT was dumb. The girls are bestest evar! On rails to watch them be strong all knowing all capable and unlikable.
I figured I could threaten Angie and then kill her. Pretty sure after seeing this though it’ll end up with him dead. I’ll have to check tomorrow
Why cant you agree, shoot angie after she pays you?
I ended up killing J and T as I had no dialogue to talk to them. Just stop there and when I got closer they started shooting me 🤷♂️