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This week on The Escapist Show, both Nick and Jack are playing Hades, and then we took another look at Cyberpunk 2077…
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We’ve been playing Hades – 0:00 – 15:43
Revisiting Cyberpunk 2077 – 15:44 – 29:59
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I love risk of rain, hades is more like an rpg to me. I love the characters and I'm slowly beating it because I'm ass at rouge games.
Cyberpunk I didn't buy but I wanted to be decent, and will not buy till it is fixed
I find it really funny that Cyberpunk 2077 was the first game I ever purchased on Day 1. Maybe it was me trying to make myself feel better about spending £50 on a buggy ass game, but I really enjoyed the game and racked up 60 hours in the first 2 weeks. I didn't even request a refund which I know many did. Having played a small amount of Cyberpunk after the latest patch I can say that it has improved graphically but is still not the game it should be. I am fully aware that I am just feeding the "release half a game" beast but I will ever buy a game from day 1 ever again.
Rogue light/rogue like who cares what they’re called, just called them video games and called it a day.
Cyberpunk stated the 1.3 patch is the last gameplay, bug fixing patch. The rest will be dlc, missions, cars, gear. Sad what it could be will never come
I tried playing Cyberpunk 1.3 and now it crashes after the splash screen. I already pushed through and beat the game when it was a week old so I guess I'll just uninstall it for now. Maybe by 2025 it'll be stable and have decent mods.
I laughed so hard at sewer jack
and as nick said he should 100% be a DnD character.
make him a reallllly filthy sewer merchant that sells his wares from down below.
One of the dopest rogue-like's out there, Enter the Gungeon
“Bethesda hasn’t released a game since Skyrim”
Uh guys……Fallout 4?
Jack!
2077 is a legit tragedy in gaming. So much wasted effort that could've gone to Witcher 4.
Bought the day 1 edition but never played it. Waiting for it to be in playable conditions.
I guess personally I just can't understand a lot of the complaints about CP2077. It's buggy sure, but no more than a lot of big-budget RPGs. I found the game incredibly immersive and genuinely emotionally affecting, I actually cried at a few points in the game. Personal taste, I guess, but it was a pretty unforgettable experience for me.
I just noticed it for the first time but Jack has the most wholesome tattoo. Lotta good points here
I played cyberpunk at release on a PC which didn't quite meet the minimum spec and I had only 2 or 3 animation bugs during my whole playthough. I find it really weird that so many people are having bugs when my potato had pretty much none.
The bald guy used to be a clown, literally. And I mean before he was on Red Letter Media
I think at this point we have to accept that CDPR isn't working on "THE PATCH" that will fix everything in cyberpunk, they are fixing quest bugs and game breaking bugs, but they're not going to rework any of the systems. I'd love to be proven wrong, but after that last livestream CDPR did I really dont have any more optimisme
cyberpunk plays pretty well on series x, imo. maybe i just got lucky
Most questions about the future of CP77 will be answered when they release the current gen system version. The game they ended up making just doesn't fit into a last gen console. I know they already had contracts to release the game for the older platforms but previous cross-gen games often released cut down versions for the older systems and people lived with it. If they can show that they can at least get the game running right on better hardware then there may be a real future for it, but at some point they're just gonna have to write off the gimped version and say "That's as good as it gets. Here's your free upgrade when you get a better system." People keep complaining about 'cut content' but a lot of that is stuff they gave up on trying to get running on consoles and they've been determined, for some reason, to give the same game (framerate aside) to everyone.
Notice how there’s no mention of CP2077 on their official channel. It has its own separate one. They’re already distancing themselves from that POS.
I think my thing about 2077 is that my only hope is the Cyberpunk franchise isn't dead. I don't know if the problems of having beautiful world "intricate" with a great art style but awful interaction with a plethora of bugs etc can be really fixed in the end. I personally don't care about Witcher cause I'm not very into high-fantasy but I'm just biased towards the Cyberpunk genre as a whole but to think that they'll drop this whole IP when they drop a more profitable franchise sucks because they botched it so hard themselves.
I love cyberpunk, I don't mind the bugs because it is pretty much only visual bugs which a lot of the time I find funny.
The world is incredible, the story is awesome and the characters are great, I cant stop driving around Night City and taking in the atmosphere, it gets too much hate.
I just started playing Hades a few weeks ago and I love it, although I find that I can't consistently win. Maybe I'm just not good enough, or I need to understand better how to combo my boons. I beat Hades for the first time on run #32, and I've won two more times since then, but now I'm hitting 40 – and apparently you're supposed to be able to win multiple times in a row? I don't see that happening for me.
Cyberpunk worked great for me on PC, although I did wait until patch 1.22 was out. Loved it, and barely saw any bugs. Seen far more bugs in Skyrim and Fallout. I do hope CDPR do more with Cyberpunk though, I find the Witcher boring AF.
I want to give it another go, I was very underwhelmed on my first playthrough tbh
I'm playing Cyberpunk on PS5, I been enjoying it a lot more than I expected. The story is good. Still some bugs but more playable without a doubt.
Many game's bugs never get fixed. Look at Skyrim. CDPR will carry on fixing this. It took 2 years for No Man's Sky to go from hated to loved, yet the media gave CDPR 3 months. On PC 95% of people are okay with the game, and it sold way better on PC than console.
Further cementing that Jack and I are on the opposite ends of the gaming spectrum. I enjoy his perspective tho
Grinding is doing something over and over so you can get to the point where you can progress or be rewarded. If you play the game and your progression feels constantly rewarding then it isn't grinding.
I straight up won't play Witcher 4. Cdpr can fuck off forever.
Honest question (Cyberpunk topic): Has any game ever been "fixed" to a good degree in the core mechanics after a bad launch?
People mostly cite No Mans Sky, and i played both versions, and i feel it is, at it`s core, the same game pre and post fix. Sure it became "more" and had alot of improvements for usabilitym bugfixes etc. but the core game still felt the same to me.
With the problems Cyberpunk seems to have with core-mechanics (Nick mentioned the combat system, i found the overwold lacking etc.), i can`t see how it could be fixed in a viable financial way. The people with the money, certainly wouldn`t finance a re-development, that is what i think would be needed, for a game without a "guaranteed" ROI, like with a new game…
i don`t think i have ever seen something like that happening…can anyone think of a positive example?
Here's my interpretation
It's all roguelikes, fuck Berlin Interpretation
It's a roguelike with progression, its a roguelike with realtime combat, it's a roguelike with X, with Y and Z
It’s a shame that The amazing Night City can’t be enjoyed because what little to do in it is so broken.
Cyberpunk is "fine" on PC now. Still glitchy, particularly when it comes to animations & traffic, but I had one crash in maybe 60 hours &, apart from an intermittent lag bug (which I think is due to it using only 4GB of RAM like it's a bloody 32bit app; 10% of what's available) none of the issues have affected the actual gameplay. I still wouldn't pay full price for it, but I paid £15 & it's definitely worth it if you can find it at that price on PC.
Addendum: I can't stand The Witcher games due to the way they feel to play.
This is the thing with Cyberpunk, I played it as soon it came out (PC) and even with a few bugs and glitches it was playable and I had my fun… BUT THAT WASNT THE PROBLEM! They basically promised the GTA killer and we got just got another RPG shooter with some lame sand box options.
They lied.
What personally annoys me is that the vast majority of the discourse surrounding this game is focused on the technical issues. My biggest problem with the game by a country mile is that ultimately, it wasn't and isn't an RPG. Minimal interactivity with the world, choice is absent outside of a few important main quests, in-game character/vehicle/weapon/home customisation are almost entirely non-existent, factions/organisations are not a thing at all. It's not anything resembling an RPG. At best it's an extremely substandard immersive sim but its mostly a subpar GTA looter shooter hybrid. As a huge Cyberpunk TTRPG fan who was highly anticipating this game for almost a decade, I was shattered by the 'final' product. I honestly have no idea how Mike Pondsmith can condone attaching his name to this thing.
(21:30) Cyberpunk 2077 Quite literally Killed Hype trains for the entire industry. Cyberpunk has been hyped up for so many years and Not even EAs "Anthem" false Trailer was as Misleading as the ENTIRERTY of all Of Cyberpunks Marketing and False Gameplays. Lets Be honest here People are Stupid and have very short attention spans Especially in todays age. thats why Companies will continue to Bullshit consumers cause Morons will still buy it without holding them entirely accountable. However In Cyberpunks case, Just how people now say "Make a No Mans Sky Comeback" People are also saying "Dont get hyped up", "Dont get Cyberpunk'ed" and thats for every game now. CDPR has lost all good will with most, but its more than that many will not take them seriously again and are less likely to pre order, or even buy until they see what Other people say and see the game for themselves Now More than Ever. if anything at least this woke a Bunch Of gamers Up to be lied to and finally standing up Especially since CDPR got sued so bad
CP 2077 not gonna be dropped, theres expansion in the development for few months already and there will be probably 2 of them like in the Witcher 3
Trying to make their money back. Didn't they already make their money back and more?
Personally I suspect that somewhere along the line there was a MAJOR shift on CP77 that required a lot of rework and changes, and that put them massively behind. You can find little bits and pieces everywhere that feels like there was an entirely different story, or plan that got scrapped. And out of fear of becoming the latest vaporware punching bag, they pushed to release what they had.
"We tried Cyberpunk" (proceeds to talk 15min about hades without mentioning it to the viewer, waiting for anything Cyberpunk related).
I played Cyberpunk on PC on day0 patch. It was a little janky (NPCs going up/down stairs, as an obvious one), but only 2 that needed an (easy) workaround when they stopped progress. It was immersive, the world is great. My only 3 major issues were the enemy AI (almost without fail they're terrible – I beat the last boss first go due to a crappy combat loop), and the story. It was the Johnny Silverhand story – I felt like I was just along for the ride. It almost feels like CDPR got too excited they landed Keanu Reeves, and then just let him be the star. Don't get me wrong, JS is a great character (I didn't mind his voice acting on the whole), but I'd like it to be a bit more of MY story. The last one I have issue with is the lack of difference. Sure there are a few endings, but most of the rest of the game is fairly inconsequential to that. It really felt like they missed a trick, but I love the world and am excited about expansions, DLC and sequels. But I won't be pre-ordering. I was clear to myself that CDPR were the last company I would pre-order from – now I will never pre-order.
I seriously bought Cyberpunk for the glitches.
I have a couple hundred hours on Cyberpunk (PC,) and have yet to see an important bug. I've had two side missions bug out, but it really did not mater. HOWEVER the state of driving mechanics is an atrocity. Think GTA IV bad. 💔
All of the game's major faults seem to be based around outdated game mechanics, and optimization problems.
It does seem like if they are going to abandon 2077 somewhat, they will probably throw it into the hands of modders, which may give the game an amazing future.
Come on. "Make their money back"? They made their money back since launch, despite refunds.
In what platform did you have those dialogue bugs? On PS5 it runs pretty good.
I left a comment in a comment about hades but about cyberpunk, I glad you guys brought it up, the game is not going to be improved the way we all hope it will be. It won't happen due to the code, its an anthem and I loved anthem and was killed about when they killed it, same going on with cyberpunk and about Witcher 4 I will feel very sorry for anybody who falls for that Witcher 4 will be good, don't we all know by now all the top devs that made the Witcher franchise great left due to conflict of interest with Adam badowski the game director…Witcher 4 will not live up to its predecessor in no way shape or form I know I won't be fooled.
I so desperately want to hear Jack tear 12 Minutes apart I can't even-
One of these days Nick is going stop being so goddamn naïve and learn that the average consumer doesn't have that long a memory, or just flat out doesn't care. CDPR's reputation has been ruined until they do good again, or until the next twitter outrage about whatever it is that twitter gets upset about; much like how everybody hates Blizzard now but as soon as D2R and / or D4 come out most people will jump on it sight-unseen because people really just want to play games, and if the game seems good then nothing else matters.
Wait this isn't Red Letter Media