Stop Hating Cyberpunk 2077



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48 thoughts on “Stop Hating Cyberpunk 2077”

  1. Lol hating, dispointing fits better actually u know what mad works better because they basically lied to there fan base soo they can holds up the seals and gets there fans money before they get the game but guess what they got fucked, all the promises and the lies from the ceo and the cover up just didn't work

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  2. Massive disagree with your first video back BUT so glad you are back. Edit: after watching again I do understand more of what you're saying, still don't even slightly agree with the even slight defense of the console versions but the games a solid 6/10 that's portrayed as a 3/10 by the media and that's good for no one.

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  3. TL;DR – Toxicity in games reporting and social media doesn't come from nothing. It comes from a worldview denied. CDPR created the worldview of CP2077 as this mega ultra uber game and, though it was financially very successfully, did not live up to the hype that CDPR created around it.

    I have to say, while I agree with a lot of the points you bring up I totally disagree with your conclusion that the game isn't as bad as people made it out to be. They built this game up over seven years. They built the overblown hype train that approached cult of personality levels of consumer worship to the point that the only way it would be justified is if the game launch was perfect. The game may not have been as bad as games and social media made it out to be, but that's only if you actively decide to judge it against criteria that CDPR was not using to judge it internally, as shown by the myriad announcements and pressers and convention highlights.

    Judging the game exclusively by the hype that CDPR built up around it, the criteria that they themselves used to judge the game… the game was an unmitigated disaster at launch. They knew it was an unmitigated disaster, thus they tried to keep it quiet with their restrictive embargoes. By any other standard, you're right: the game was a massive financial success and, at worst, only confirmed the trend that you bring up of open-world games releasing at the end of a console's life-cycle 'bursting at the seams' as you call it.

    That standard, however, is not the standard that was used to build the game and thus, in my view, not the standard that should be used to judge it or report on it. That toxicity in the gaming community may not be warranted… but it doesn't come from jealousy or envy or anything like that. It isn't a random hit squad. It comes from the worldview that CDPR created around the game, and that was shown to be false in the launch of Cyberpunk.

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  4. Thank. F***.

    I've voluntarily ceased consumption of content provided by the FH brand since the whole…you know who…debacle. The magic is just gone for me. These two guys are like 50% of why I watched that content in the first place. Its so good to see you guys again. Its different, but still familiar enough that it still feels like home. Thank you guys, keep on keeping on.

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  5. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how you're able to be Inside Games. Not complaining mind you, I think it's hilarious! In any case though, glad you guys are back to doing this kind of stuff. I've missed it!

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  6. I do think you guys cherrypicked stuff by giving explicit data and analysis to the thesis you defended while your criticisms were "the media treated these guys badly", with lots of superlatives and not commenting specific issues of missing features from trailers, questionable narrative content, not to mention the bigger issues surrounding corporate culture i.e. crunch.

    Your video assumes the reporting on the game on the game being malicious was self evident, so you kinda ended up lumping every criticsim under the same umbrella. The media coverage isn't monolithical, much less the reception from the "normal people". So framing it as such comes off as a bit of forming a narrative of aggressive journalists vs an innocent company, which comes of as simplistic, just the other way around.

    I don't disagree with a lot of your points, but I think even if your mission statement is to bring up the positives, the way you guys just write off or ignore some of the criticism, it makes it look like a strawman argument. And I know you're better than that.

    That said, I follow you guys since the machinima days when Lawrence was a drawing on a screen and Bruce was just fart jokes, and I still love your content.

    You guys have a follower.

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