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This Netrunners name crops up several times throughout Cyberpunk 2077. But who is B@d really? And what do they want?
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00:00 Intro
00:36 Catch a Tygers Toe
02:15 Watcher and B@D
05:07 Dredged Up
06:25 Flying Drugs
09:43 B@d’s Bunker
12:35 Theories
19:40 Final Theory
23:04 Conclusion
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nice sneak in of T-bug at the end
I’m only just now realizing how deep some of the lore in this game goes. I kinda took the shards for granted and never really explored the computers at all but seeing how much they crammed into the smallest parts of the game is really impressive. It’s also impressive to see you going through everything to piece stuff like this together!
It’d be hard to tell who bad is but Rejina made contact with him and is commonly referred to as a he. I’m just assuming but being a skilled netrunner and setting up bunkers, he’d have to be in his late 30s to mid 40s. He obviously has a body if the Wraiths were searching for him, having a bunker and setting up mines and drones. My guess is he, or she, can’t enter Night City because they’re wanted and could be also wanted by Arasaka. Thing about skilled netrunners is they live in the shadows. Getting caught could mean the end of them. IE, Alt Cunningham would be the perfect example of a skilled netrunner getting caught. Bugbear, even Brigid (Though Brigid got caught due to V’s assistance. Netwatch was the main reason). Thats all I can deduce from what was given.
You really think CDPR couldn’t of possibly planned edgerunners considering it’s the same IP & there was a different team working on edgerunners? You really don’t think they worked together at all to plan ahead & make the show somewhat cannon? Lol okay.
You do know that just as its unlikely its also just as likely that they built the idea of Lucy on who B@d was, expanding the story of B@d's character in the anime.
One theory you missed is that instead of being super poweful b@d is actually only semi-capable. We don't know their attack on arasaka was successful and we saw one guy die from her work. They were successful taking down drones but we've seen others doing similar
B@d's theme song. I cannot be convinced otherwise:
I couldn't wait for you to come and clear the cupboard
But now you're gone and leaving nothing but a sign
Another evening I'll be sitting reading in between your lines
Because I miss you all the time
So, get away
Another way to feel what you didn't want yourself to know
And let yourself go
You know you didn't lose your self-control
Let's start at the rainbow
Turn away
Another way to be where you didn't want yourself to go
And let yourself go
Is that a compromise?
So, what do you wanna do, what's your point of view?
There's a party, screw it, do you wanna go?
A handshake with you, what's your point of view?
I'm on top of you, I don't wanna go
'Cause I really wanna stay at your house
And I hope it all works out
But you know how much you broke me apart
I'm done with you, I'm ignoring you
I don't wanna know, ahh
And I'm awarе that you were lying in the gutter
'Cause I did everything to be there by your side-ide
So when you tell me I'm the reason, I just can't believe the lies
And why do I still wanna call you (call you, call you, call you)
So, what do you wanna do, what's your point of view?
There's a party, screw it, do you wanna go?
A handshake with you, what's your point of view?
I'm on top of you, I don't wanna go
'Cause I really wanna stay at your house
And I hope it all works out
But you know how much you broke me apart
I'm done with you, I'm ignoring you
I don't wanna know
Ohh
Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
I don't know why I'm no one
So, get away
Another way to feel what you didn't want yourself to know
And let yourself go
You know you didn't lose your self-control
Let's start at the rainbow
Turn away
Another way to be where you didn't want yourself to go
And let yourself go
Is that a compromise?
So what do you wanna do, what's your point of view?
There's a party, screw it, do you wanna go?
A handshake with you, what's your point of view?
I'm on top of you, I don't wanna go
'Cause I really wanna stay at your house
And I hope it all works out
But you know how much you broke me apart
I'm done with you, I'm ignoring you
I don't wanna know
Preem work. Thanks choom
S@m
Another reason b@d might not be able to do the legwork in Night City is that they're a known entity. We can scan people with our optics and see who they are & what they're wanted for; if Arasaka knows who b@d is, they might not be able to move around NC without getting jumped.
Or it might just be part of the misdirection game; someone was seen entering the H11 server room shortly before an attack was launched from there, that someone is now on the short list of suspects.
There is such a thing as 'retroactcive writing. Or prequels.
Do you think Lucas had the whole story of Anakin figured out when he wrote Darth Vader? Of course not.
Wonder about Morgan Blackhand. First and last letters are B and D, replace everything in the middle with the "@" symbol. Possibly the use of the "@" symbol is referring to an odd meaning of it. Like "@" referring to a-round.
B@d by daylight, Murkgirl by Night!
Real world aside… I mean we are in the net.
Lucy could operate from the moon
Doubt b@d would be a nomad. Nomads know who and what raffen are. I'm more leaning to the theory that b@d is an AI. There are several quests that have AI sending small parts of themselves beyond the blackwall. Like in bloody ritual. If the name is at all relevant, perhaps it references a corrupted fragment of a RABIDS construct, ie (RA)-B-@(coruption of the I)-D-(S)… doubt it though, just spitballing. Still I'm leaning on an AI fragment. Not fully self realizedf, kinda like the Delemain fragments, but still hot stuff on a net and gradually becoming more whole. The work on the drones could be a way to let an AI work in meatspace especially with the way networks are set up in 2077.
What's that scope at 12:54?
I fell a little short in patience and with my cryptogram skills..but when I look at the format above, it looks like the "^" karet is the end of a sentence/line . The %% and UU throws me off cause there's only a few double letter combos in the vowels..ee, oo, rare aa's, ii's.. but it can also be double s's.. Even so, some of the words are really long from middle to end..and I am not sure it actually is going to make sense. I can still be wrong, but initially, I feel like *TYT&= Moron. The only thing I feel sorta confident in is that the $=A.. I didn't stick with it, but at first, I thought the first three characters $^R might be ALT.
B@d could be Iris or Dakota since she has netrunning gear
"John Obmar" = Rambo?
Bartmoss @ Darknet
NC has millions inhabitants, and just in the Afterlife there's tens of mercs we know nothing about. So.. yeah, last option is the most likely
I think they have a medical condition that confines them to somewhere out in the Badlands, and thus they use proxies a lot.
I do think they are young, and have spent most of their life connected to the Net, becoming powerful there, while their actual physical form is very frail.
I'm not sure we'll get to meet them, but it would be cool to do a few gigs for them.
If it were Lucy, it explains why she can’t do things in person. Also, as far as the work with the wraiths, the motive could always be ulterior on B@d’s part, regardless of their identity. They might just be doing work to splinter themselves in in order to get something else, even if it’s as simple as information to turn over to a different faction for a profit.
There is a man that you help in the game that is confined to a wheelchair. 🤔
Fun fact: catch me if you can author Frank Abangale and the character portrayed by decaprio pretty much made it all up lol, kind of meta too
Essentially he was a conman who told a story of his fake exploits with the message of not trusting a conman while conning people by going all over the place giving speeches and getting some hollywood sucker to pay millions to make a movie of his fake exploits. In otherwords, he was a liar who became a conman by telling stories of a fake conman
Running with the idea that B@d is a nomad, could she be either one of the Aldecaldo's netrunner or maybe Dakota?
Catch Me if You Can is not actually based on a true story. It is based on a book written by a conman who's greatest con was passing of the book as being true. Still a good movie.
If you really wanna know it that B@D
When it comes to your Lucy theory… granted the real life timeline of the game releasing before the Edgerunners Anime does technically put a spanner in the works… Edgerunner’s is still technically a prequel to the main game. So theoretically, CDPR and maybe even Mike could slightly retcon the identity of B@D to be Lucy. And maybe the reason B@D required others to hack things for them in the city & badlands is because they’re not on Earth to do it themselves. Maybe B@D is based on the moon… just like where Lucy was last seen. And Lucy definitely has reasons to be attempting to hack Arasaka… not only for perhaps revenge for how they treated her & her peers back in the day… but especially because they technically took everything from her… her friends and especially her lover, David. But also, like you said… she could be trying to free David’s engram from Mikoshi and the situation with the Wraiths and stuff could indeed be a decoy to make Arasaka and others believe they’re being hacked by someone in Night City or the Badlands, when really they’re hacking from the moon, and the net runners she employed could be just to maybe help with signal between the Earth and the Moon. Also, B@D’s compassion for that other hacker seems to somewhat fit Lucy’s personality and her experience of losing people she’s worked with.
But indeed, B@D could be someone or something completely different. and yes.. I did say “something”, as in B@D might not even be human, they could be a rogue AI.
Sandra Dorsett comes to mind since she hacked into night corp why not arasaka as well. We didnt get her name she goes by on the net afterall.
Maybe branch out to the Deus Ex games? Years out of the limelight now but you might still have fun with the lore
Tbf on the point of “Lucy can’t be B@d because this came out way before Edgerunners,” I believe even in the release of the game you could find a drink in the Afterlife with the name “David Martinez,” so that means CDPR had at least some idea about Edgerunners by that point, or at least how it ended. I don’t think Lucy is B@d btw, I just wanted to point this out
It's probably songbird since she is nusa intelegence analyst she get all sorts of data Dogtown is near badlands and Pacifica and is isolated from night city that means she can manipulate anyone from anywhere since she got all info almost like spider with it's web of connections
B@D is a physical person.
B@D is a woman. (My guess is the "Princess is in another castle" message is the only thing we'll get on that.
B@D operates mainly from and lives in the badlands. There's a few points for this. The first being the hidden bunker that was lived in, but also that it exists and she was there. Finding a place like that isn't really random chance. You either BUILD it, which implies an excess of time there, or you hack a few servers and find that it exists, which implies intentional searching.
B@D's programs are always run from insertion of a shard. The only time it isn't, is when she contacts "Watcher".
Finally, we get to the interesting part. Why B@D can't jack into the tower directly. And she's OPEN about that information.
There could be a few reasons.
B@D is physically disabled, though not likely given her base had stairs.
B@D is recognizable enough that the NCPD actively track her image, which could be solved by a few choice hacks and she doesn't target NCPD.
But my favorite theory is that she doesn't HAVE a jack. Unlike 99% of the people in Night City, I think B@D doesn't actually have any augmentations. I don't think she's a netrunner at all. I think she's just a supremely good coder.
Maybe due to a bad experience or a bad brain stem or a bad nervous system (which is honestly what I think the name would come from in this theory, a way to reclaim her "disability" as something that is uniquely her), she's unable to get the cyberware.
My main guess is that she's a nomad who never got the augments from a birth defect that wouldn't have affected her in the current day. While living as a nomad, she was able to piece together computers. She was eventually kicked out of the larger groups and had to live as a wraith. While there, she utilized her hacking and programming skills to make up for her lack of reaction time. Then got jobs to pay for food drops. Without being able to get a jack installed, she can't get employed legitimately in NC, as everyone uses cyberware to send money, messages, work, everything.
I still can't quite tell what her big plan might be for Arasaka and those subnets, but I do hope that Phantom Liberty might explain more about her.
John Obmar…? Rambo…?
I think the cannon is Lucy committed suicide after edgerunner.
The one person I thought it was is someone you actually didn't mention.
We rescue a hacker (Iris Tanner) for Dakota caught by Raffen Shiv. I've always felt she's a prime candidate.
She has the badlands connection and insists on working on her own specifically not for fixers.
isn't it just alt??
It’s Lucy from edrunner
Catch me if you Can if a wonderful movie and one of my favorites of all time.
Regarding Lucy potentially being B@d which can actually support this theory is the fact that the devs could actually have planned it from the get go.
If you walk into Afterlife, we can see the drink for David Martinez. This drink was in the game before Edgerunners released. And we know what happened with David. The theory in which Lucy could've been B@d is actually plausible considering the devs had a plan for David from the start of the game.
I came across an interesting (yet disturbing) scene yesterday while exploring Kabuki in Watson – As I approach the area a few kids run away from the scene leaving a kid holding a gun sitting across a 'dead dealer'. …. the shard tells the story.
Hey Sam just wanted to say that I really enjoy many of your Cyberpunk videos. I hope that one age restriction won't discourage you, I can imagine how it feels to put a lot of work into a video only for it to die, cause of the platform
Question: Why is there 3 variations of Bad? B@D, b@d, and B@d. Continuity error? Choice of the character talking about b@d? Or are there multiple people using the moniker b@d?
nope lucy confirmed, need copium….gonna be expecting that quest to help lucy storm arasaka again and secure david's engram