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After almost 6 months, Cyberpunk 2077 is still a buggy mess and struggles at times to run on two of the platforms it was released on. Buckley looks at one of the developer’s recent comments about how they feel they don’t get “enough credit for being ambitious”, the surprising number of returns (surprising for a different reason than you might think) and the current state of the video game industry in general, and asks the question “when will there be consequences for releasing games like this?”
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I don't trust any game.
"When will there be consequences?"
This is a valuable question in many places, and yet the same answer works for all of the contexts:
When consequences matter beyond public scorn and mockery.
When actual risk of legal liability exists.
When the perpetrators can no longer get away with it.
Some people don't like Jim repeating it as much as he does, and yet he repeats it as much as he does because… nobody cares about legitimate consequences. EA (and others) actively defend gambling and nobody stops buying from them (or second hand buying at a minimum, so they get less money). Activision CEO makes more money each year and he celebrates it firing workers on the lower end of the ladder, those that can't even buy food in Activision cafeterias. CDPR will just get back on good faith by PR statements.
There is no accountability in the industry (and the real world in general) because consumers don't care about accountability, they only care about getting the next toy in line for full prices. The industry is exploitative and abusive, but The Gamers TM feel threatened only if a buff woman, POC and/or LGBT individual shows up. MAYBE if a company doesn't let them do whatever they want with its IPs. EA can have people gamble; Activision can fire employees at will; Ubisoft can systematically cover up rape, sexual and psychological abuse; but it's all perfectly valid and not worthy of never buying their games ever again.
GTA 3 was a better game than this POS.
New Vegas was by Obsidian and Fallout 4 was the least buggyest game Bethesda's ever released.
Based?! 9:02
Forgot this dumpster fire even existed
i only ever heard about it giving people seizures,,, this is so much worse than i thought
Yay a notification for content from two days ago. I’m gonna listen anyway and be entertained several minutes.
Wanting respect for ambition is weird. Bin Laden was ambitious, so was Charles Manson
Nice video. Also, happy Memorial Day everyone. Hopefully it goes well for you and your family.
People have done awful things that caused actual harm that will never face consequences. What make you think you're even entitled to seeing consequences because you had a bad experience with a game? You're probably one of the people who harassed Laura Bailey because you didn't like The Last of Us 2.
4:30 If HE wants to cry about it? Jesus Christ. Asteroids, come now. Please.
Even if the game is ever patched up to a good state of stability, it doesn’t change that it still won’t be the game we were promised. Wether your playing on a base ps4 or a solid gaming PC this isn’t the product that was marketed.
I wont play this dumpster fire again until it`s fixed. So I`ll probably never play it again.
It all went wrong when people near enough started praising bethesda for their bugs and glitches.
I really enjoyed the game :/. Encountered a few bugs on my playthrough.. But it looks, sounds and plays better than most games. I feel for those who played bought it on console.
One of the things I've realised about games that are sold broken/incomplete and rely on post-release patches is that they tend to be games that are broken/unfinished at a FUNDAMENTAL level which random patches won't fix. I bought Bloodstained on PS4 – good game but so many bugs of all shapes and sizes because the devs weren't used to the Unreal engine – and its patches have been known to do more harm than good.
I don't think you deserve credit for being too ambitious and working hard at something that you could really never have achieved. Fyre festival was overly ambitious. So was Theranos. That was the problem. They got people hyped with these things that sounded so great but then completely failed to deliver because they were never possible in the first place.
I don't get why you need to use a bitching voice for the entire video, was pretty annoying. The criticism was right im not arguing that.
Every time there is mention or I see death threats online all I can think about is that one episode in black mirror with the bee drones.
I'm so glad I didn't get this game. No mans sky taught me to not believe the hype
I'd like to believe that their next game won't sell as well but that's not how it works…somehow…
The situation is sad, because the game is not bad at all, but the bugs fuck it up, i was fortunate not to experience so many game breaking bugs but i wont vouch for their shitty conduct. Also a lot of senior devs are leaving cdpr, so its not entirely without consequence. The shitty management is getting to them, because in the end the top dogs who wanted to throw it out as fast as possible fucked it up.
Screw it, I'm going back to playing Diablo: Immortal.
We don't know if there are consequences yet. Bethesda probably hasn't had the success with Fallout 76 they want, and they damaged their brand before the launch of a new IP that I have no plans at all (as a previously huge fan) to buy until reviews are in. Games sell on the merits of prior works more than their own, these days.
I just want to go back when games were at least a playable experience . This is the results when producers and developers think that bigger = better.
The consequence is that a game with a 9 year development cycle doesn't get to release their $400 in DLC. You're crazy if you think $60 covers the costs of a game that size.
I don't care about glitches unless it's game ending so skyrim fallout new vegas fallout 3 oblivion and morrowind a d the best rpgs we've gotten over the past 30 years
I mean, it does suck for developers versus studios up their butts to do stuff faster, work longer hours, we'll patch later. But that doesn't seem a factor in what happened here.
Plus if you back an indie video game, you will see people after 2 months start demanding a refund because the game isn't done in 2 months when the small team probably only got all the funds a month ago and needed the money to make the game beyond a demo to market on. Instant gratification destroys any actual gratification.
Triple A games have all the tools to be better, they are inexcusably sometimes the worst, but yeah, people want it faster to be first and I'm sure to try and be an early streamer these days. How bad a game is sinks in after the initial hype is over and these guys are sitting with a broken product that's not even fun to watch and ~$60 less dollars. So annoying with a new game flooding streams. I always wonder the ratio of players to watchers on that.
Not to mention the cost of games today, so studios can say "we'll cut corners and fix later".
It's funny because Studio Miris who had no previous experience with making 3D Games makes their game SinsAbell way less buggy than a game created by those with major experience with 3D games. And that was back in 2002.
I'll buy the game some day, when it is ready, when all the 50GB updates are a thing in the past. Till then, with buggy games like Cyberdelay Cyberscam here, it makes it easier on the graphics card. Since not every AAA game is good, there's no need to buy them, and GPU just keep on doing what it is doing best, run games from the last gen. And by the time the game is ready, there's probably a better graphics card to buy anyway. That is as much positivity I can pull out from this mess of a game.
I'm just waiting for Steam to be desperate enough to put it at around 20€
I would be all on that "fuck them" side if they were the consistently doing it. Not saying we shouldn't be pissed at what they did. But we had EA bent over and on the defense after years of them screwing up and after battlefield V's release and almost no content its like….. people just backed off. And it feels like that happened with most games that have been released so….. I dont get why choose this company to turn on instead of the ones that always screw us
its like beeing a construction worker: YOU know the best about how finished the building is and not the people who wants to buy it… same goes for game devs they cant say i didnt know or something thats just a sign of poor work.
i dont belive a single word a game dev says until theres some proof thats actually in the game and i first watch raw gameplay before i buy something
if u all stop throwing money at them as soon they anounce something they will stop throw buggy & unfinished shit at u!! for the most part its just business we arent in the 90s anymore…
think about it this way 😉
So what you are saying is you gave your money for this game.
There’s almost no game in today’s times I pre order or even wanna buy one the first day anymore
I don't know who you are or why this was recommended to me but when you start off your video taking about how you don't ask people to like comment and subscribe….that's exactly what you're doing. You got a comment but will not be subscribing or even starting another video of yours. That's corny
I bought this game for $30 after patch 1.2 and it was still disappointing. The game is ass.
Hey man, i usually agree with 99% of what you're saying and i don't usually comment, but: the developers are not to blame for this. I work as a developer myself and i my ears peaked when i heard the developer talking about the game being too 'ambitious'.
You hear the word 'ambitious' in the development world, whenever a manager is given a retrospective to the people working below him, after he or she made the developers push too many product increments in a too short amount of time. This usually happens in companies where investors are regularly expecting a new working demo of the game build. The result is that a team keeps having to expand upon production instead of testing and refactoring their code.
This developer's hands are basically tied. Imagine him saying on screen: we kept getting rushed by the guys upstairs. He would basically get fired and wouldn't be able to work for any other big company ever again.
Even on pc it ran like ass not as bad as console but still no excuse if you’ve been developing it for a long time
The issue wasn't with the reviewers. It was with CDPR as well. They made a complicated system where only PC review codes were sent out to reviewers with the best PCs. So naturally the critic reviews would skew higher for PC specifically compared to other platforms since that's "the best platform" for Cyberpunk and the reviewers were playing on better hardware which could brute force through some issues. If you look at the critic reviews for the consoles, it's a different story.
I honestly don’t blame CD Project Red. The devs got so much hate online when the game kept getting pushed backed. They constantly said the game was not working well and would be bad if released at the time. Yet the people following the game would only ever complain about it getting pushed back. Consumers deserved the product they got cause they would not shut up about the delays. You want a broken game? WWE 2K20, game has been patched 10 times now and it will still randomly crash. CyberPunk has been patched 2 times and ever since I haven’t run into anything worse than cars not loading in certain parts of the so NPCs just float through the street but that’s about it, which is just more funny than anything. Overall I think CDPR did the best they could with the crowd they had constantly whining about the release date.
Im LMAO at All those people who were defending this trash game when it came out, hahaha.
You love to see it.
My pals n I use choom n anti corpo shit all the time. Tho we’ve been playing the tabletop for years and skipped out on the vidya- as soon as we saw it was all shit we actually started getting together again and playing some campaigns. Shit’s preem as hell, and 100% free if you know where to find the rulebooks.