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In this video, we’re going to explore why you should give V’s body to Johnny at the end of Cyberpunk 2077.
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Temperance (specifically from don't fear the reaper) and the star are my two favorite endings. We find out that V is afraid of dying with nobody to remember him, he wants to feel like he mattered- on the other side of the coin we find out that Johnny, despite being a legend, had a funeral in which nobody came. V much like Johnny during his time was so focused on something, in V's case it's becoming an NC legend while Johnny was so focused on Arasaka rather than moving on and enjoying life. We find out that Johnny missed out, and that he as well as V are alone
Yeah in my first run I played a Nomad dude and chose the Nomad ending as I felt it was the most fitting for his character.
But on my second play through I decided for a combination that I like the story most with a Corpo Vee girl giving her body to Johny.
At the beginning they are complete opposites, Johnny the Corpo hating Rebel dude and V who used to be a successful woman working at Arisaka.
Two worlds clashing into each other, as opposite as it can be, slowly getting a mutual understanding.
In the end you break in with Rogue and when the time to choose comes, you hand over your body to Johnny. It is the only way for the body to survive.
Johnny get's a second chance at life, leaving Night City behind. Vee meanwhile goes beyond the black wall to roam the net.
This way both survive and could even meet at a later point again……
to be fair, the only reason Johnny changed for the better in any way is because V and Johnnys personalities are slowly merging over time. He inherits Vs innate good, and likewise V inherits Johnnys 'bad'.
What Alt says to V in the end makes no sense with how the game has played out to that point. V is made into an engram and will be put back into the relic. Alt tells you your body will reject you in 6 months or so but that just doesn't track. What should happen is, the relic should remake V's body to fit the engram contained inside it, namely V him/herself. Technically, V's body is now perfect for the relic because V dies when hooked up to Makoshi and the relic is designed to put an engram into an empty vessel.
I think the writers had Alt tell V this because they wanted the dystopian feeling to continue but it just doesn't logically work for how we know the relic works and V's new situation.
No I won't
The ending where Johnny continues to live in V's body is very symbolic of the development process the game game took. Before Keanu Reeves joined the project the game was just about V, and the entire narrative of the game was going to be about V's struggle to take over NC. Then Mr. Reeves signed onto the project… And Johnny took over a giant portion of the story narrative, to a point that massive rewrites of the story had to take place.
Imagine playing the new upcoming DLC as Johnny.
You forgot an ending where you put a gun to your head and end this circus for good. Killing two birds with one shot so to speak. A fitting end for a NightvCity resident.
Give Johnny, V’s body??? That’s like meeting Hanako at Embers and I still have a shit ton of side gigs to complete.
Nope. I don’t think I will.
“You should give Johnny your body”
Me with the Nomad ending and clapping Panam cheeks: “No, no I don’t think I will”
Rather glaring plot hole about the chip rewriting V. If the chip could rewrite V with Johnnie then V's chip could do the same. Alt is the fkin creator of soul killer. She could've made it happen. Cool story, a lil dumb writing here and there though. Had cdpr put half as much effort into the main story as they did all the easter-eggs, the story would've been amazing.
they're all still terrible endings but I'll take Panam any day
No
The Devil's ending makes it possible for V to survive. Using Soul Killer on someone that is alive transfers their consciousness to the digital realm. For example when Jackie dies, if you let Arasaka take his dead body, and when you go to Mikoshi in end game you see a big difference between how Johnny and Saburo act compared to Jackie. Johnny and Saburo react and talk with you and have the same personality and previous memories intact while Jackie's construct felt like playing back recorded audio.
If i may ramble a bit: Arasaka created Soul Killer to "interrogate" dead people to acquire knowledge from people of interest that have already died. Like playing back memories. When they used it on a person still alive (Like Johnny), and found out consciousness can be transferred to the digital realm, it gave birth to the "Secure your Soul" technology, which means anyone who can pay for it can essentially live forever by changing bodies.
Anyway, letting V go with Alt beyond the black wall will have the same effect, but the longer you are there the more you become like an AI, it happened to Alt as she is not really human anymore. She let go of everything that makes her human and she doesnt even identify as such anymore.
In a way, I feel like builds and roleplay with those builds should help determine choices. I'm recently playing a high cool/reflex with 20 intelligence build. Basically an epic netrunner with insane stealthy blade/pistol skills, and I feel unstoppable. With the netrunner roleplay, I feel like giving myself to Johnny to join Alt in the net, is not really a big sacrifice, but an epic opportunity.
Finally someone agrees with me on the johnny ending being the best, it's especially the best if you go through the secret ending path.
JS didnt slowly changed his mind, he changed his mind about killing V a few hours after their first fight.
imo, V got killed by Dex, she got a second chance to solve her problems and live a little bit more, why not let Johnny get a body after his chip gave her that chance? Going away with Panam or whatever feels like a waste.
The best ending is definitely the Johnny ending. First, it just fits the thematic tone of the Cyberpunk story archetype.
And second, the ending dialogue clearly sets up a possible sequel. The Johnny ending sees Panam absolutely FURIOUS at Johnny and she vows to track him down. V is beyond the wall with Alt. And Johnny has left Night City. You couldn't ask for a more clear sequel setup than that.
Have Panam track down Johnny and ambush him trying to kill him, have them both eventually talk about what happened with V. You have an interlude of Panam trying to accept that V's gone, and then in her usual stubborn way, she refuses. Then the game shifts to her and Johnny traveling across the NUSA to put together a team to do the impossible and cross the wall, find V's consciousness, get an engram for him, and bring him back.
You have all the elements there. You can play with the setting and give players the chance to see the rest of the NUSA, you can get really creative with Fixer personalities, you get to keep the mercenary work structure by making the focus about making connections and earning favors rather than building a reputation. More Panam. More Johnny. You can throw in a modern day Spider Murphy and Morgan Blackhand. More Kerry.
And definitely the possibility for more alternate endings with all the different ways the climax of finally getting to V beyond the wall would play out. You fail to make it to him. You get him out. He refuses to leave. You decide to stay with him. V doesn't survive the trip back. You all live happily ever after. Etc, etc, etc.
There's a ton of potential there.
FUCK NO! Panam ending for the win. It's the hopeful ending which means perhaps V and panam live on together. Ridin' into the sunset on the basilisk.
I get what they were going with story-wise, but the idea that the chip can't be re-written ore modified to restore V's body to V's specifications is kind of silly. Arasaka clearly still makes engrams, so the idea that they didn't even bother to try to upload V's mind is just odd. No reason they couldn't upload V back into her own body, and/or make a clone body for Johnny by the rules the game set out for the chip.
WHy would you trust the analysis of a rouge AI?
Nope. Johnny screwed up his life. I’m not giving him my body. I’ll go with Panam and try to find a cure.
I liked the ending with you riding a hover tank with the normad chick into the sunset…
I like Reaper+Temperance and count as best ending, because V still live in net, possibility future can find the way to live again, but other ending V will end up with dead or ??? and Johnny still in net.
1 Live live long as it can, If it has possible way to save it then I will choose that.
and Hope DLC have new ending like V Merge with Johnny, Same as Delemain merge with other personality.
i think johnny and v became best friends at the end and if you could save your friend because your gonna die anyway then yeah i think giving the body to johnny is the best just wish you got a chance to say goodbye to all yor friends
Not corpo Army. Johnny was a US Marine in the 1st South American war.
I think the suicide ending is the most likely outcome for V.
No. Johny made his choice and died. His revival is basically an affront to life.
V made her choice. And died.
Let both rest.
wait a minute, in the trailer of upcoming phantom liberty DLC, it says that Johnny will return, doesn't that mean giving Johnny the body is non-canon? otherwise there's no way that V can take that oath in Cyberspace, and Johnny (in V's body) is very unlikely to agree to become the new president of NUSA
Well no matter what ending you take (minus the obviously permanent one) the story ain't over yet just another chapter passing by
So you ignore that Johnny killed millions of ppl and a couple hundred thousand people with nuclear fallout….. he helps one ddue who made a living as a mercenary thief and all of a sudden he's redeemed himself STOP IT COME BACK TO REALITY BRO….. V redeemed himself not Johnny. V should live his life with Panam
Honestly, I wished that they put int dialogue options to see what would happen to V if he/she gave Johnny their body since the way that I took my options, when I first beat the game, as choosing life or death. Now that I'm older and (hopefully) a little wiser I would have liked to know if there really was a "life" within the Net.
Johnny MIGHT live a few more decades in V's body – IF he starts to think with the brain instead of his … uhm … emotions. V ends up with Alt? BONUS!!! V now has a chance to effect real change all over the world. Make a real difference. Imagine playing as V-rogue AI as he teams up with whatever "Alt" has become!!! m/ 0_o m/
Temperance all the way, baby. V's soul survives and trudges beyond cyberspace, Johnny gets a second chance at life. There's a lot of avenues for the saving of both. You never know.
You gotta do the Don't Fear the Reaper ending. I'm positive that's the intended ending. Just Johhny and V versus Arasaka, on his way to become the greatest Night City legend.
Heres the problem with the game, you can literally have at least 12 different ending based on what route u start as & the way u chose to end it if the RPG elements in the game were implemented properly
I've been watching your videos recently on cp2077 and I've noticed you keep calling using female pronouns for V.
Is V canonically female? And if so, what's the source as I'm interested in learning more.
Who doesn’t want to help John Wick 🤣🤣🤣
Meh, I think they're jumping the gun a bit, calling it 'soul killer'. It's a philosophical question. Anything alive is a copy of something else as it is. Our own cells are copies already, so if an engram is so authentic it should be a similar experience if presented the right way. We lose memories and parts of ourselves gradually overtime, and gain new ones naturally. It's the 'over time' thing that gives an illusion of structure. A good soul killer chip would probably be installed as early as possible.