Cyberpunk 2077 and “Late Stage Capitalism”



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Cyberpunk as a genre is a great critique of modern capitalism, but it’s also a caricature that often makes some unfounded collectivist assumptions. CDPR’s Cyberpunk 2077, the story of V and Johnny Silverhand, gives us a starting point for examining questions about post-capitalism, collectivism’s tendency toward inexorable expansion, and whatever other topics this meanders into.

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00:00 Intro
01:30 What is Capitalism?
03:08 Power Disparities
04:34 The “Punk”
05:45 Socialism
07:45 Post-Capitalism
09:12 The EIC
10:45 V and Collectivist Fatalism
12:45 More Post-Capitalism
15:15 Muh Roads

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24 thoughts on “Cyberpunk 2077 and “Late Stage Capitalism””

  1. I find it hilarious how leftists keep on parroting the trope pushed by left-wing "intellectuals" of big corporations as the proof of the failing of capitalism, when this is not capitalism. It is oligarchy – the amalgamation of economic and political power, as the two inevitably corrupt each other. The quintessential fundament of capitalism is free competition. The whole point of a mega-corporation is to become "too big to fail" and pursuit political influence, which would enable her to steamroll free competition. The moment a state official or a influential politician starts treating a commercial enterprise on the basis of "exclusive circumstances", this is no longer capitalism.

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  2. Cyberpunk is not a new idea, bladerunner did it 40 years prior and way before that George Orwell in 1984. The reality is it is fascism, the alinement of private corporations and government to the point where they blur into the same. It is not 'post' or 'late stage' anything. Fascism has been tried before but due to the inability to control information it was unstable and failed. That is not the case now as those corporations are the very ones controlling our communications. The future is very dark as humanity has shown it's self to be sadly over compliant, just look at what happened during covid. We don't even demand change from outrageous actual conspiracies ie WMD, lab leak or Epstein island. Speak out about it and you are labelled Russian disinformation ffs, their propaganda is in fact a work of genius I'll give them that.

    I was 30 in 1990, the end of the cold war and the fall of the Berlin wall. So too the end of the USSR and the Warsaw pact yet curiously not NATO (which directly lead to the issues we are seeing now). Other than the NATO situation it was a time of real optimism of hope for the future as while I was at school there were TV adverts on what to do in the event of a nuclear war, all that was over. Liberty was real and I wish young people had what we had then.

    The new vehicle of fear is the environment where the elites use private jets and beach fronted mansions to tell us we are putting it at risk by eating beef. There have been 79 useful idiots arrested in Greece for arson over the recent 'climate fires' in the last 3 weeks but our propaganda machine hardly mentioned the arson.

    But then with such a large proportion of the population unable to answer the simple question of 'what is a woman' without hyperventilating what chance have we got!

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  3. I think its funny when i compare our real world to the world of cyberpunk THEM: "corporations arent doing thing you think" ME" GE literally makes my dishwasher, toaster, and the gun on a A10 warthog"

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  4. "A corporation is just an organization that's been given legal status by the government, and the government is just a corporation that can force you to buy it's stuff." Well said, I've never heard a better explanation as to why I'm a libertarian. I distrust big government to the same extent that I distrust big business.

    EDIT: I really enjoy the thought exercise of trying to imagine what a post-capitalist society would look like because we're likely to see it in the next twenty to thirty years or so. I always start with the assumption that AI and robotics will make most humans unemployable. A society without a substantial worker class is by definition no longer capitalist, so post-capitalist is a better term.

    Because most people will no longer be able to support themselves by working they will no longer have the economic role of "worker". I think the average persons' economic role will rather become "consumer" through a UBI.

    This is because the corps will need people to keep buying their products if they want to stay in business, so it's in their interests to enable people to keep purchasing as much as possible. Ditto for the government that wants social stability and to stay in power. The government has a strong incentive to make sure people can still support themselves even if they don't have jobs because the alternative is societal collapse. I therefore think that a UBI is inevitable, since it's in the interests of both the political and capitalist power brokers. This will have the effect of turning us average people into "consumers" rather than "workers". (And not coincidentally, also make us completely dependent upon "the system").

    An interesting question is that of taxation. If the government keeps pumping money into the economy via a UBI it will lead to massive inflation if the money is not later removed from the economy through taxation. So who should pay the taxes? It's pointless to tax the UBI that most people will be living on (either via VAT or an income tax). That basically leaves company profits and the incomes of the few who do have jobs. I would expect to see very high company and personal tax rates in a post-capitalist economy.

    Of course, very high taxes make for a very high incentive to evade taxes. Therefore I think the future is of money is CBDC's. CBDC's have the advantage (from the governments perspective) that every transaction in the entire economy can be tracked in real time. Government AI's knowing as much as you do about your personal and business finances will make tax evasion almost impossible. Also there's just no way any government will pass up the kind of power that CBDC's will give them.

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  5. I'm a gen z cyberpunk subgenre fan and Cyberpunk 2077 was my gateway into it. I wish I can go back in time and experience the 80s where cyberpunk subgenre was at its peak.

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  6. in all endings except the bad arasaka ones the arasaka corporation is fucked and their main technology is destroyed so the all bad endings point doesnt stand

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  7. Technically, there is one ending in Cyberpunk where its kind of implied that V is able to finally be cured. This is a huge spoiler so if you don't want to know dont read any further…

    V does the job knocking the Crystal Palace out of orbit by the robotic/AI called Mr Blue Eyes during the end of the game. Its implied that Mr Blue Eyes, using his hyper technology, is able to finally fix V after doing the job although this is never directly said. Probably to leave a cliff hanger for the next game.

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  8. jesus christ, the fkin marxists at the universities, that everlasting cancer. one would think that people at the universities would have some more wisdom to know what a bullshit that is but nah, marxists at unis. and to this day there are even russian supporters in there. how about all of them move there and experience their beloved ideology.

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  9. I just bought this game this week and as I've been playing it I've been thinking about the deeper meaning of the game. I knew it was a display of when capitalism goes too far but I'm not capable to really push that thought very far. This video did a great job of expanding upon that and answering any question I might've had regarding the embedded messaging of the game. Love this format, thank you very much.

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